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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    this is starting to be horseshit. Every windows computer has a version of fucking solitare on it , there are other card based games that don’t get this treatment, and the lootboxes are actual gambling.

    I thought at the start it was a type of beurocratical problem, but it’s been too long.

    • tb_@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      Not entirely sure about the European PEGI, but the American ESRB is funded by the same companies that it regulates. It was created after the outcry about violent games and was the industry self-regulating to avoid the government getting more involved.

      It is a lobby group for the industry, for better and in this case very much for worse.

      I assume PEGI is little different.

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        24 days ago

        PEGI and many other groups are private groups. They’re not an authority of any form. They’re not associated with government, public regulation, or public election. They’re a group of people that create their own standards outside of the ISO or any actual regulation representing the public.

        Some countries do have actual public systems, but many just have these private groups that know best.

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        24 days ago

        That would be the point, yes. Balatro has cards and chips, but chips are just there for keeping points. If Balatro is 18+ for gambling imagery, then so should Solitaire. That would be stupid, so Balatro shouldn’t get it, either.

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          24 days ago

          I think the important note is it’s not just the cards in Balatro. Is it right? Not in my opinion. You have to admit tho, that it uses waaaaay more gambling imagery (you make antes for fuck’s sake)

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              24 days ago

              I haven’t played or watched Balataro but from the description on steam

              You’re going to need every edge you can get in order to reach the boss blind, beat the final ante and secure victory.

              Unless ante here is referring to something else it seems it does have them?

              • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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                24 days ago

                “Antes” are what Balatro calls its levels. Each level consists of 3 stages, which the game calls “blinds” (small/big/boss).

                In poker, you don’t “beat” an ante, it’s part of what you bet. You also don’t “reach” blinds, nor is there such a thing as a “boss blind” in poker. And the word “bet” or any synonym should be pretty conspicuous by its absence in Balatro’s description. There is no gambling without betting/wagering, after all.

                So yes, if you’re familiar with poker, that description should make it obvious that the words have different meanings in the game than they do in poker.

                The only actual ‘mechanic’ that’s actually the same in Balatro as in poker is what comprises the different hands, and their relative value. And even then, there are also hands in Balatro that don’t exist in poker at all (five of a kind, flush house, etc.).

                • Cypher@lemmy.world
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                  24 days ago

                  Firstly you could read user names before going off, I was simply asking a question that Im unwilling to buy the game to answer.

  • caut_R@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    They haven’t understood the game at all, I wonder if they even looked at it for more than two minutes

    Run game > see playing cards and poker chips > close > PEGI 18

    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      They’re not looking into blatant gambling in AAA titles, of course they won’t take a closer look into an indie game. They’re completely useless.

    • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse

      • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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        24 days ago

        They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now…

        • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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          24 days ago

          This isn’t really new. Solitaire has had ads for over a decade now since Windows 8, and there is a monthly premium subscription to remove them. As I understand it they also don’t show during offline play, but might be wrong about that.

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            24 days ago

            Offline play? It’s SOLITAIRE. Offline play should be the ONLY play, by default.

            Feeling like I took crazy pills this morning…

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        24 days ago

        Supertux depicts imagery of speeding, misdemeanor and felony. +18 Age rating for Torvalds and all of his derivatives.

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    24 days ago

    He probably forgot to funnel millions of dollars to non-profits and businesses adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.