• Canopyflyer@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Cooking has been a hobby of mine for decades now. I have gone through a lot of phases in cooking, especially early on.

    I have used cast iron, carbon steel, stainless steel, and a dubious flirtation with all aluminum.

    16 years on now and this is what I reach for 100% of the time:

    Skillet/sautee: cladded stainless. Both standard side and high sided.

    Dutch Oven: Enameled cast iron.

    Pots Pans: Cladded stainless steel. For smaller 1qt to 2qt I like All Clads D5 for its heat retention. Larger than that I like the D3 for its lighter weight

    Grill Pan: cast iron. Hate the excessive weight though

    Non-stick: Ceramic coated aluminum. What ever Americas Test Kitchen recommends that year. I consider these disposable items. I stopped using TEFLON a long time ago.

    I used cast iron skillets for several years. I found them to be finicky. Heat retention was stupidly high and that’s not always a good thing. Excessively heavy and god forbid you attempt any sort of tomato based sauce or anything acidic for that matter. Circumstances forced me to use stainless steel and I just found it matches my needs in a kitchen much better than cast iron. It gets used, it gets cleaned and I put it away. No having to have the vaginal juices of a thousand virgins on hand to make sure it doesn’t destroy the next egg I try to cook.

    I consider cast iron skillets like safety razors. They had their day, but continue on because of a dedicated set of die hard users. Nothing wrong with that, just not my thing.

    The above goes for carbon steel as well, although it usually isn’t nearly as heavy.

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      18 days ago

      Cast iron is to sear the bajesus out of steak. Nothing else can blacken the steak crust to my satisfaction without inadvertently overcooking the middle.

      I hate it for everthing else.

      A tiny cheap teflon pan just for 1-2 fried eggs and nothing else.

      Then SS all-clad as the go-to for everything else.

      Been having good experience with the hexclad teflon pan although handwash only. I believe it is generally disliked because it is marketed as “dishwasher safe” which is absolutely false. When handwashed it holds up very well.

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        17 days ago

        Nothing else can blacken the steak crust to my satisfaction without inadvertently overcooking the middle.

        Cooking at such temperatures is really bad for you. It will give you literal ass cancer eventually.

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      18 days ago

      Ugh. You wanna know the secret to cooking on cast iron/carbon steel? Just cook with it. Put fat in, get it hot, put your food in. It’s really that easy. Wipe it out when you’re done, rub some oil on it. That’s it. You can even cook tomato sauce in it, it’ll be ok. People have been using cast iron to cook all kinds of things, acidic and not, for literal centuries. This myth that cast iron/carbon steel pans are these delicate special snowflakes that need constant attention and maintenance needs to die.

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        17 days ago

        The polymerized coating on cast iron is stripped almost immediately with anything acidic. It’s basic chemistry.

        Put some fat in the pan… You mean exactly what I do with my stainless steel?

        Also cooking the way you describe builds up carbon, which is carcinogenic.

        What needs to die is the emotional attachment people have to a technology that has its place, just not for every day cooking.

        My grill Pan and Dutch ovens are cast iron. But they are Enameled making them a lot more useful. ,

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          17 days ago

          Your “basic chemistry” doesn’t match up with the lived experience of the plethora of people that frequently use cast iron/carbon steel. And yes, it doesn’t matter what type of pan, including non-stick, if you want your food to taste good you’re probably gonna start by heating up some fat. You’re only building excess carbon in a cast iron/carbon steel if you leave on bits of burnt food and season over that. If you clean your pan properly (with soap and hot water, because that’s totally allowed), that won’t happen. Tons of people cook with cast iron/carbon steel every single day and have absolutely no problems with it. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying everyone should only cook with cast iron/carbon steel, all I’m saying is using those pans is way less finicky than you’re making it out to be.

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        17 days ago

        But they do need special maintenance, compared to Teflon pans or ceramic pans, they are the most finicky and hard to work with.

        There are a lot of things people have done for centuries. Being old doesn’t make something superior.

        The problem with the people who prostletyze cast iron, is they usually assume that everyone cooks like them, but the reality is that cast iron is generally a pain in the ass. I mean just the fact that you need to cover the entire pan in oil Every time you put it away should be enough of an indicator.

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          17 days ago

          Oh hell no. Nonstick pans have to be babied - plastic spatulas, gentle sponges, and they get worse with time. Cast iron you almost cannot destroy, and gets better and better with use. Scrub away with chainmail, scrape with a metal spatula, it doesn’t care. Too hot? Doesn’t care.

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          16 days ago

          no. Teflon pans are just the worst. silicone utensils only and never turn the burner over half or your budgie dies. BTW your theory about oil coating is idiocy.