Sounds like you aren’t the market for touch screen devices. Most people get on with them just fine.

A phone with a slide out keyboard with buttons so tiny that only a mouse could use them? Sorry to exaggerate a bit, but it’s a 4 inch screen. That keyboard must be awkard. I guess a blackberry would have suited you, too?

The reason they dont make physical keyboards for phones much anymore is be ause they dont work well and people dont like them.

You manage a website? What’s your monthly hit count? How many of those users have foldables? Can you rely on the user agent to identify a tablet? Or is it possible that they just appear the same as a phone? Or a foldable? (it is). What if they use desktop mode? do you think your websites number of tablet users is representative of the overall global users?

I used google to determine the number of tablet users globally and averaged a number from multiple sources.

Tbh, it seems like your view is “if it doesn’t line up with my preconceived ideas, then it must not be true”

Which isnt a great way to look at things.

Because my keyboard looks like this. It’s fast enough, and if you learn how to use shortcuts, suggestions, and cursor control etc its easy in its own way.

Maybe you just dont spend enough time with touchscreens because of your clear disdane for them.

Tablets aren’t a flop. Estimates say there are at least 1 billion users worldwide, and they have a lot of niche functionality not provided by laptops, as i have previously mentioned.

Regardless. You, a none foldable user who clearly thinks desktops/laptops are the best user experience and most functional, telling me, a foldable phone user who has both a desktop, and a laptop, and i work in IT on a laptop daily that my foldable is not a perfectly reasonable and legitimate user experience is a bit odd.

I have experience of both, you have experience of one (or so it seems based on your posts) and you are telling me i am wrong about my experience because you dont think it’s possible. It’s just a bit rich…

I know you might think you dont need to use one to conclude you won’t like one. But i contend that after having one as a daily driver for almost 4 years, I could not go back to a non foldable. It would be too restricting.

No, thats fair. I struggle to figure out when so.eone is being confrontational even irl.

I think its a good standpoint to have, saving to buy is a good way to stay out of debt. The only downside is when it comes to buying a house, if you dont have a credit history, then you might fail the credit checks because theres no proof you can stick to repayments.

Things like phone contracts and bills help with that. It may even be worth getting a credit card to pay for groceries and then paying back the credit card with your wages each month, with the money you would have spent on groceries anyway, just to build your credit score.

I dont use saving on phones. I use them on car and house repairs. On my kids clothes etc.

But you do you, and I’ll do me. Im managing just fine and im not poor (at least not relative to other people in my circles) (obviously most people are poor, its all about perspective, but thats neither hear nor there)

What do you mean by seam? Do you mean the crease? If so, it is nothing. I’ve never even close to cared about it, and in all my time using these phones, it hasnt been a problem, even once.

If you mean something else, then please elaborate because i dont know about it.

In regards to it replacing a laptop or desktop, that’s not what it’s for. It can replace some of the functions of a laptop or desktop, i can game on it using apps or streaming from my ps5, or emulators with an external controller like a gamesir make it into a respectable handheld. I can comfortably manage emails, shopping, web browsing, lemmy, social media, photo and video editing. I also use it for playing music (displaying sheet music) and composing music with cubase elements and fl studio. It also works as a midi controller for various insteuments and effects processors.

Im sorry but just because you dont see the use cases, it doesn’t mean there isn’t any. Arguing against folding phones is almost the same as arguing against tablets. Which have a decades long legacy of being extremely useful.

But again. I dont replace my laptop or desktop with this thing. I replace some functions and i compliment or augment others.

My desktop and laptop are too clunky for day to day stuff. There are a wide range of things i now do on my phone that would be less than possible on a normal phone screen.

I dont blame you for not seeing the benefits. Like i said earlier, you need to try it to get it.

As for a self destructing screen, its nonsense. There are 5 people at my work that have folding phones. There are 2 fold 4’s 2 fold 5’s and a fold 3 as well as my fold 6, theres also my wife who has my 3 year old fold 3 and my brother who now has a pixel fold and no one has a broken screen. Oh! My mum and her partner both had flip 3 phones and have just bought the flip 6s and her partner ended up getting a fold 5 last year. No broken screens.

If you know anyone who has broken a folding screen, that person would have a brokwn screen regardless of having a folding phone or not. The amount of broken screens or damages cases i see in my day to day is insane.

I know even all of the examples i gave are anecdotal, but your claim about self destructive screens is simply false and not backed up with anything.

I expect to have my fold 6 in 5 years still as good as when i bought it.

I dont think that’s fair to say. Would you apply the same logic to a house or a car?

Of course, i could pay for this phone in a single month, but then i wouldn’t have enough for gas or electricity for my home. Or to pay for my car, or for food or anything i might need that month.

Even the biggest companies in the world borrow to pay for things. Spreading the cost is a perfectly acceptable and legitimate way to pay for something.

I save for other things. I have my bills, and i have my savings.

Whilst i appreciate the financial advice, i would prefer a less matter of fact approach to calling me irresponsible

But i dont have £1700 to hand to buy it outright and buying on finance direct from samsung cost more than half what i pay on my contract per month. The contract is with o2 and they offer a separate airtime and phone plan. They are independant of one another. It would have cost more to buy separate with the airtime plan i have and the discounts i applied and extras i got for free with this particular contract.

I guess you have to try one. I got a samsung fold 3, i loved it. Then, when my contract ended, i got a fold 6. I would have a hard time going back to a standard phone tbh.

My wife said she wouldnt get a folding phone but when i got my fold 6 i offered her my fold 3. She ended up really liking it and wants to get a newer fold when her contract ends.

So theres me, who knew i wanted one and am happy with it to the point where i cant go back. And my wife, who didnt want one but after trying one for a few weeks, said she got it now and would be upgrading to a newer fold when the time comes.

They need to get these in peoples hands if they want to sell them better.

This was back in 2011

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12343597#%3A~%3Atext="We+noticed+that+URLs+from%2Cor+the+Bing+Search+toolbar.

Oh yeah! That too! Flick the bean!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12343597#%3A~%3Atext="We+noticed+that+URLs+from%2Cor+the+Bing+Search+toolbar.

Think this covers it but i havent got time at this moment to read through it.

Do your access rules work in both directions? Do you have any strange routing going on? Do you need to configure a static route for the returning traffic?

Sorry, knowing very little about your setup means i can only suggest vague possibilities based on networks i work with.

I cant hear you, I’m looking at porn!

Remember when they proved that bing was just providing google search results?

Like it straight up sent your search query to google search and fed back the results in the bing skin.

Edit: i am uncertain that this is true, after a search i found this article from 2011

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12343597#%3A~%3Atext="We+noticed+that+URLs+from%2Cor+the+Bing+Search+toolbar.

This is what i was referring to. I explicitly remember reading this story, either on bbc or somewhere else, back then but i didnt look into it any further at the time.

I have had a quick look around (im in work) and there is a possibility that it was never proven. But i dont have a reliable source to show that at the moment. If anyone wants to fact check, be my guest. But please dont, as another poser did downvote my comment and post images of a google and bing search you did just now as evidence that my claim is false without looking into the validity of my claim.

The link above is from 2011, as i said, and shows what i was claiming.

Wow, internet is expensive where you are. I pay £28 (about $35) a month for 1gig up/down in the UK.

Go and get checked for sleep apnea.

This was happening to me alot. Waking up multiple times a night, desperate for water, like, pints of it, then do a big wee and back to bed.

I started getting issue with staying alert and awake in the day, i was dozing off in work meetings (not fully, but like when your head dips and just jolt awake again)

If you dont have it, then great, mark that off the list.

If you do have it, get it dealt with because it’s bad for your heart as your body uses adrenaline to wake you when you stop breathing and leaving it untreated shaves years off your life.

If you let it go too far you can be suspended from driving and all sorts until you get it under control.

And if they are saying that, it makes me even more stupid for not thinking of that joke. :)

In the uk “bean” is slang for 'head"

Meaning you are calling me stupid…

Which i suppose isn’t really an insult, as its true.

HDD for long term storage. More reliable, has a higher number (essentially infinite assuming the drive never fails) of read/writes before failing. Cheaper and higher capacity than any ssd or m.2. Also if you dont keep applying a small electrical charge to an m.2 they eventually lose the data. HDD doesnt really lose data as easily. Also data recovery is easier with HDD. Finally you know when a HDD is on its way out as it will show slower write speeds and become noisier etc.

I used to work in a service desk looking after maybe… 4000 desktops and 2000 laptops for a hospital and the amount of ssd and m.2 failures we had was very costly.

Take a photo of yourself in the mirror. Where is your god now?