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  • I don’t see the problem of banners being tarnished nearly so much as the Right Wing…

    I did not mean actually tarnished, I mean figuratively tarnished in the minds of a large group of people that are required to affect change.

    At some point, people do need to understand that they control the means of production in a very literal sense.

    Agreed, but I dont think you can begin to teach that lesson until the working class has solidified more, or you risk breaking momentum when one of them goes “Boy i swear i heard this from the radio man i let control my opinions as something i dont like”

    I think you have a large deficit of trust

    100% true. I’ve seen a majority of the country get swayed by the literal lowest common denominator of conman ive ever seen. I know the reason for this is because of the influence of the media and their own personal bubbles, but it does prove that they are incapable of forming their own opinions.

    You, personally, can’t do anything about that

    Yeah i know, so i just try to speak about the path forward that makes sense to me and hope it resonates with people.


  • I don’t understand how saying we should avoid labels and stick to ideologies is a bad thing. I just don’t see a route for people to organize working class folks under a banner when all the banners have already been tarnished for 60-70% of the people, it seems that route is a more uphill battle with no determinable advantage to just organizing under the idea that we the working class are being robbed endlessly by the elite ruling class and it has to change.

    As to your point about theory only going so far, yes I 100% agree. But i was speaking about our current state, specifically because this is the first time in recent history that division among left/right working class folks has ever traveled closer to each other, if only a little bit.

    Am i using the word ideology wrong maybe? Because it seems a few people are at issue with what im saying, while saying the same thing rephrased. There might be some sort of nuance to the word I’m missing. I mean ideology as purely just theory and reasoning on why a thing is or isn’t; in this circumstance as a stand-in for something loosely close to “We the people are no longer represented by government, and billionaires run the country”. Id worry if you expand it beyond that you lose a lot of support. But you obviously should go beyond that at some point, and you have to have a gameplan, but as mentioned before that feels like a conversation for down the road.



  • I was trying to avoid the sloganeering you clearly hate by saying we should be avoiding labels and focusing on ideology, you know, the route of “real, lasting change”. But at least u got to feel smugly smarter than me for a brief moment after failing to understand what i said and arguing against something I didn’t say. Please stay out of this topic, you’re the exact kind of person that makes larger swathes of people not want to associate with them because they’d be associating with you too…


  • Yeah Ive used that same sentiment in this analogy a few other times before. The Dems became complacent using “at least were not them” as there entire fucking running strategy for too long. “Here are 1-2 token policy changes that are technically a step in the right direction, that will distract you from business as usual while never undoing any of the real problems with the country and making larger steps toward more problems”




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    You can’t organize the working class with a “Marxist” reading list, maga was already told they don’t like that word. Speak the ideology of unionization while avoiding the things that can be associated with Marxism, communism, socialism, while remembering they don’t understand those things, they just have a trigger words they know to hate.

    As an aside when speaking to maga, don’t let the conversation ever be Dem vs GOP, always frame is as workers vs elites. In the former we are divided, in the later we have solidarity.

    Edit: My response to many responses, I just said dont say marxism or communism because a huge percent of the population are literal sheep who have already been told thats bad, just make a new label, or better yet, just avoid giving it a label, keep it down to “we need to stop the elites/ruling class”. Regardless, if you get a bunch of people to fall in line with this ideologically they can label it whatever they want at that point, sheep don’t change their minds, so when they villanize the new label, or assign it to a preexisting label, you would hopefully already have enough on board outside of modern left/right bubbles that it can spread through traditional grass roots methods.






  • Ive been daily driving pop_os for a few months now and im never going back. I have a few friends very clearly curious asking me questions about usability and stuff, might convince them to dual boot at some point to test the waters so to speak.

    #1 concern I hear from my circle is video game compatability, to which I saw ive not experienced many issues (and 0 that i couldnt fix) but i dont play modern triple A garbage notorious for issues on all systems, and at the end of the day if gamers never move to linux then support for it wont improve.