For the lazy:

“A source of confusion is that ‘citron’ in French and English are false friends, as the French word ‘citron’ refers to what in English is a lemon; whereas the French word for the citron is ‘cédrat’.
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Other languages that use variants of citron to refer to the lemon include Armenian, Czech, Dutch, Finnish, German, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Hungarian, Esperanto, Polish and the Scandinavian languages.[citation needed]”

Tiny Toon Adventures, then Animaniacs.

Kinda giving away my age, but Animaniacs was right around the time I just started appreciating characters such as Minerva Mink and Hello Nurse.

I find that really interesting - and can’t relate to it at all. I suppose if what I do counts as sensory seeking it goes in the opposite direction (I mean porn) but pain is definitely a pure negative for me that I do my best to avoid.

I think there might be something to the endorphin theory (and my apparent lack thereof)

Tradition.

Gas prices are also the only retail prices that include tenths of a penny - specifically 9/10, as in all gas prices look like $x.xx9 such as $3.059

I’m actually curious if you mean that literally - in another thread we came up with a theory that enjoying stuff like BDSM, etc and enjoying spicy food could actually be linked by how sensitive someone is to endorphins.
I’m likely not at all sensitive to them, so for me pain just doesn’t lead to pleasure (besides trivial things like scratching an itch)

I like this theory, I wonder if liking spicy food is often correlated with enjoying activities like BDSM and tattoos and such.

I could just have roughly no response to endorphins - I know pain killers such as oxycodone do basically nothing for me (to the point that I don’t bother taking them when prescribed)

That would kinda explain a few things now that I think about it… Very interesting.

Exactly. That’s why I think the only useful definitions of free will are those that are weak enough to distinguish between the animal and the rock in a situation like that.

You’re right.

It would have to be multiple timelines or single consistent history. Of the two, I think multiple timelines is a little more likely.

Yeah, but I feel like if it were feasible to violate the condition we would have done it by now (besides the Casimir effect). That’s just an opinion of course, and I’m just an interested layperson, but I know physicists have been trying for at least a few decades.

I can think of a couple ways around that, the easiest is that I actually think time travel is impossible. (Like this for example)

If it’s not impossible, then single-timeline travel probably is, and all (backwards) travel would start a new timeline.

Short of that, maybe something ridiculous would have happened when the traveler “first” went back, like one of them tripping or whatever, and the handshake they agreed to try didn’t go as planned, and then “still” didn’t the traveler’s second time. Basically this.

I believe it’s impossible in the real universe.

Sure there are solutions of general relativity that contain time loops, but they require stuff like an infinitely long cylinder, or escaping a spinning black hole, or negative energy. I just don’t believe beings made of finite matter and with finite energy will ever be able to time travel (except into the future at various rates) and that’s the only kind of beings I think exist.

I think from a physics standpoint, strict free will is already an illusion and the only useful definitions of free will basically boil down to “choices can be made”, perhaps as far as “Slight differences in initial conditions can lead to different choices” (but somehow excluding random processes). That kind of definition doesn’t even require consciousness, and is compatible with a deterministic universe like ours seems mostly to be. Would also be compatible with the time traveler unwittingly doing everything as must happen, but still via individual choices.

Statements like that make me feel like an alien who just landed here: I believe you, but it’s so totally outside my experience that I genuinely can’t make sense of it.

That part doesn’t make sense to me either - people don’t generally intentionally stub a toe or bite their tongue or whatever, but those activities would release endorphins also.

Exercising is about as close as I can think of that people regularly do and releases endorphins, but it of course has direct benefits and not doing it has drawbacks, and it should not really hurt that much to begin with.

Getting a tattoo would also, but I assume most people do that for the result and not the experience.

I fully agree, to me it doesn’t add any flavor at all and even overwhelms other flavors the food would have.

But it’s kinda funny that the comment my client currently shows directly below yours says “The pain itself is a flavour!”

Sounds like you have built up a decent tolerance already.

Just sensitive. There’s an extremely small range between nothing and pain where maybe it feels like heat to me, but then physical heat also just becomes pain when there’s enough of it.

It’s the same word in a different grammatical situation.

That almost makes sense to me, the same way something like slapping one’s own face might.

Huh. Yeah, still can’t imagine a flavor that good.

And even very mild spicy food strikes me as less flavorful than without the capsaicin, mostly because of the (even slight) pain taking my attention from the food itself.