Lemmy.world is hosted in the Netherlands, who massively voted for a fascist in the last elections. They are biased toward fascism and xenophobia.
Are you saying that The Netherlands is fascist, or the people hosting Lemmy.world? I don’t know about the latter, but regarding the former: The Netherlands has a multiparty system, in which the fascist right party you refer to, only got 37/150 seats. With it, it became the largest party in the government today, but it only represents roughly 25% of all voters. Therefore the majority of the country isn’t fascist, so I don’t see how your comment makes any sense.
You’re acting like if those 25% didn’t influence the rest of them lmao.
It’s larger than I would like it to be, sure. But claiming a country is fascist based on 25% is just wrong. You would be right if it were the majority. Besides, if you look at the details you’ll see that many people used the far right as a protest vote (which I despise, but not the point). I doubt and perhaps hope those people aren’t actually fascist.
Whatever. They have the executive power and thus can do what they want with any communication system based in their jurisdiction, making the said communication system fundamentally flawed.
Y’all know you can post to more than one place, right?
If
.mldidn’t exist Lemmy would be reddit-level huge already.Thank god it exists then, the last thing we need is another Reddit.
Yes, thank god
.worldexists and a reminder to donate!literally no one but extremist anti-social tankies were using Lemmy before
.worldhappened.Yeah who doesn’t like westoid bullshit and ad-nauseam trump spamming.
Reddit already existed before .world, makeing .world completely redundant.
Reddit is not federated, not transparent, not open source. Dumb take my dude.
.world hates federation lol.
The weekly .world feud post right on time.
Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.
yeah I see way more of these idiots whining about tankies than actual tankie content.
Likewise the same with .world. Aim for a smaller instances community if you can contribute.
Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml
Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:
MARXISM! UuUuHh!!
That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance
Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they’re trading trash opinions.
The fact you don’t like an ideology doesn’t allow you to ruin everybody’s experience of this platform, idiot. If you don’t like left wing content you could pressure lemmy.world to defederate from the rest of the lemmyverse. Nobody will miss you guys
I’m just here having newly federated everything and glad to be the fuck away from reddit
welcome! there is constantly infighting here. you chose a good instance.
.world is the most ‘reddit’ like of Lemmy, and that’s not a compliment.
completely agree.
Lemmy.world is just more popular than other lemmy instances. At least it’s not threads.
The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government
Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.
Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.
I feel like an old man asking this, but what is the theme of 196?
Go stir up some drama in 196.
Did you forget which post you’re commenting in?
Here’s a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:
Article 137d: “He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.”
Is being a CEO a religion now?
(Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)
Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?
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Is Drag your alt?
Ah yes the supply side jesus freedom ranking brought to you by citibank
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Okay and I don’t care about your uninformed opinion and yet here you are, wasting my time. 🥸
But there is an easy fix for that.
oh wow, not sure what was said but thankfully I’m lazy and hadn’t replied to that person in another post I still had up (science post I was gonna answer their incredulous questions in case they just didn’t understand but I see now it’s just a troll account). Looks like they got site banned but it’s unfortunately the shitty way where you can’t see anything they did to know what happened.
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Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there’s one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you’re registered somewhere else of course).
Lemmy’s search is dogshit… It’s my number one problem with this place. And this is the ONLY place I use these days.
Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.
See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
More in line with your comment though I wish there was a way to specifically merge a few comms into a single feed just for viewing purposes. So if you wanted to you could merge two c/memes feeds from different instances. You’d either have to take the post button away from that view or make it prompt you to select one of them from a list though.
Would also be cool to be able to export / share merger lists so if you trust someone’s opinion on which subs from a topic are worth following or go well together or even just want to migrate your own list you can do that too.
See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
what does SH mean in this context?
my home instance
Helpful links:
Lemmyverse is a good place for finding communities your instance might not know about
Lemmy Federate is good for seeding communities to other instances.
The more power (engagement) any particular community’s moderators get, the heavier-handed they get.
.world is full of powermods lording over their little kingdoms too.
Yeah… your modlog history paints a different picture. Apparently, you seem to think the rules of lemmy don’t apply to you.
Oh please half of Lemmy has had issues with FS or Jordan.
They’re like 90% of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
And there are no “Rules of Lemmy”, every instance has its own rules.
Dude… your comments are public. The removed comments are clear rule violations. I’m thinking either you seriously don’t think they apply to you, or you never read them.
And just because something is in YPTB, it isn’t guaranteed to be correctly attributed. Note how many people in the comments disagree.
Cool.
And just because you think something doesn’t count, doesn’t matter when everyone else does. And most of the comments agree too.
Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant
THEY WON’T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT
I’M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS
I have this dude tagged as “dumb tankie” and I have never felt more smug in my life which is saying a lot.
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Ah yes, the classic Scunthorpe Problem
I believe you mean clbuttic
I very much like that, by all reliable reports, Scunthorpe is a real cunt of a town 😁
even Tom Scott filmed his video about the scunthrope problem in penistone because “there’s really no reason for anyone ever to go to scunthrope”.
One of my favourite football chants:
“You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt, You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt, You cannot spell Scunthorpe, You cannot spell Scunthorpe, You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt”
Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
Also, it disregards comment language
That’s shitty. It effectively removes the ability to communicate in anything but English.
E.g. some frequently used words that are non-slurs: fag (nordics, meaning class/course), retard (french train stations will display this when trains are delayed). Living in Norway, I have frequently been frustrated when MMOs wouldn’t let me talk to friends in my native language without censoring or even handing out bans.
The Spanish name Enrique can be diminutised to “Kike” (key-kay) but PlayStation network banned accounts with that name as the word in English is slur against Jews.
why not use
Qiqeas a workaround?That’s something I’ve always wondered myself - I’m not sure why the spelling mutated, but then I’m not a native speaker.
… Or slut, which means end.
Also, my American girlfriend insists on pronouncing the Dutch surname of new Liverpool manager like that.
Granted, that IS pretty close to the correct pronunciation of “Slot” in Danish (which means castle or palace and is also the name of a cheap but potable beer), at least 🤷
Exactly, I’ve even tested with setting my comment to French, exclusively speaking French within, and it’s still filtered.
And that pissed off a couple people who just couldn’t believe my motivation was anything other than desire to say slurs.
I don’t know about the other Nordic countries, but here in Denmark, “fag” also means profession and is used as a colloquial term for many related groups and concepts.
On a slightly related but hilarious to me note, “bad” being Danish for “bath” and a company refusing to change with the times to accommodate an increasingly international marketplace has resulted in one of the most successful mid tier bathroom design companies in the country still being called “Bad Design” 😄
The English word bad is based on the Old English word baeddel, which meant gay, intersex, or pedophile, and made no distinction between the three. So it’s basically a homophobic slur.
Brb, gotta cheerfully say “you’re so bad!” to the ole partner and give it a whole new meaning when being flirtatious.
This is the biggest flaw and issue with the fediverse and Lemmy, it’s too damn fragmented with no good way to easily consolidate content from similar, or even identical, communities across instances. So people end up gravitating towards the same few that have the most content.
Crossposting
That relies on users knowing every sub similar to the one they want to cross post to. It also still fragments comments to each instance.
Yall can view All to right? I know it defaults to local, but you can press one button and see everything not defederated.
That just gives you a jumbled mess of everything, which is IMO pretty useless. I want everything pertaining to a subject/interest in a single place, despite being scattered over multiple subs in multiple instances.
I like the idea of having the ability to browse communities with the same name in one place.
Where you can set it to local to have it as it is now, and also being able to browse all of them at once.
being able to browse all of them at once.
/all + new + comments is like my main use case, yet it’s frustrating because I can only view a tiny amount of comments at once, and only the first page of them. Hoping that gets fixed at some point.
While this is true, I think this post is more a reminder that .ml is garbage.
True, but the same issue happens with reddit as well, for example gaming vs games vs truegaming. Over time those communities either found their niche (gaming sub became mostly memes, games sub became news and discussions and truegaming tried to become a more serious discussing sub). Actually there were way more gaming subs but unless they found their niche they died out. So people gravitating towards specific communities is a natural occurrence.
As for trying to automatically consolidate communities across instances, it sounds like a great idea on paper but seems like technical she moderation headache, because you won’t have a clear source of truth. Let’s say instance A and instance B both have a community called news. The same news article with the same title is posted on both communities on both instances by different users. Assuming we want to consolidate those posts into one, which instance post will be shown or in more technical terms, which instance becomes the source of truth for that post? Who makes that decision? What if there’s also instance C with the same community and the same post but that instance isn’t federated with instance A, how do we consolidate posts? Each community has its own moderators and moderation rules, who is allowed to moderate the post? What if the moderation rules contradict between instances and both instances want to apply the rules independently, are they supposed to split the post?
Maybe there is an elegant solution to all the problems but I don’t see there being one. I’m not against the idea, the problem is you want to solve its something I have given some thought and because of that I just don’t see it working out the way you’re imagining it.
It would be a fundamental change, but communities should be global and not tied to instances. This would allow for the necessary centralization and reduce duplication. It could also be used to ensure communities survive a in instance going down scenario.
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This would allow for the necessary centralization
The fediverse is a collection of community-owned, ad-free, decentralised, and privacy-centric social networks.
It’s still decentralized control, but the content becomes more searchable.
How would that even work? Imagine you spin up a brand new instance and create a new user and want to subscribe to a community. Because there is no one source of truth does the new instance simply not have the posts and comments that were made before the instance was created? If it’s supposed to get historic data as well from where is it getting from? Does it pick a random instance and pull all the posts and comments from that instance?
What if that instance is defederated from another instance with the same community and doesn’t contain the posts and comments from the defederated instance? Does your new instance have to go ask all the posts and comments from all the other instances to rebuild the community dataset on your instance? What if these two instances that are defederated both create the same post with the exact same content? Is that one or two posts?
What if user on one instance changes the name of the post but there’s some weird bug that allows only half the instances to register that change. Did that change actually happen or not? How do you solve the data inconsistencies if there’s no central source of truth?
What about moderation? There’s no central authority to define moderators or moderation policies. How do you verify who is actually a moderator and not someone trying to impersonate a moderator? What if different instances have different moderation policies, how would communities agree on a moderation policy if in essence both instances can claim authority over the community?
And these are still pretty high level questions. It would get more complex if we were to dig deeper into a possible solution. Even if it’s all technically solvable I think the solution would probably be so complex that it becomes unmaintainable which means it becomes unusable.
Setting up a new instance wouldn’t be significantly different than today. The difference would be instead of asking each instance individually for what communities they have you would use a distributed ledger to contain a list of communities with their primary and secondary instances. This would create the sigle source of truth for communities. As communities still have to physically exist somewhere, the designated primary instance would have the master record for the community and you could designate secondary instances for resilience and possibly spread out pulling that information.
Moderation doesn’t change significantly, primary instance admins would still be the fallback, but they could designate any user to be a moderator.
Defederation would be a little messy, but not a ton more than it is now. The primary would be the source of truth, if they don’t accept writes from an instance, then those posts and comments wouldn’t exist, (this is basically the same as one way federation now). If an instance wants to read from a community it’s on that instance to drop anything from instances they don’t federate with from the response from the primary.
As above, the primary instance is the source of truth, if a change doesn’t get there. There could be an eventually consistent cache on other instances for usability.
The difficult part would be how to handle changing the primary instance, or designating the primary for a newly created instance.
But that’s effectively what we’ll have right now. You can create multiple communities of the same name but one will eventually become the main community that people will visit. And we could already create “backup” communities because I’m pretty sure the data from the main community is already sent to all the instances that have users who are subscribed to said community. The data is already in other instances, it’s just a matter of reusing the data.
So the only crux of your solution is how the possible instance for the community would be chosen. And that’s a whole can of worms. It can’t be the same instance the community creator is a part of because that’s the solution we have right now. It can’t be completely random because I’m pretty sure there are instances that legally can’t have porn or piracy on their instance, or maybe the instance owner simply doesn’t want that on their instance. If there’s supposed to be distributed ledger that effectively prevents creating duplicate communities and that ledger is the same for all instances, then there must be a possibility that the new community ends up in an instance the community creators instance might be defederated from, otherwise a “pariah” instance (who are pretty much defederated from the majority of Lemmy) can reserve community names by defederating everyone and then creating communities. So that decision starts to have a lot factors which lets instances influence the decision. And in some ways there’s even an incentive to influence the decision because the more communities one instance has the more power they have over the entire lemmy side of the fediverse. If they defederate from another instance that instance can’t create those communities for the people on that instance (unless you go down the reddit route of having gaming vs games vs truegames).
And that’s just the decision of the primary source. There’s a whole other bucket of questions about the distributed ledger. For example how does the ledger change? If one community needs to be moved to a different instance who makes that decision? If it’s the primary source instance then how do other instances verify the ledger? If you have Instances A, B, C and C and instances A and B are defederated from C. Instance A has a community that gets assigned to instance D. Instance A sends a ledger change to instances B and D and then instance D send the change to C, but how does instance C know that the sent data is correct? Instance D could send the message that instance A set the community to instance B and there’s no way for instance C to verify that message. In fact most of my questions in my previous comment apply to the ledger as well because the ledger would have to exists on every instance.
And then there are other factors like what if Mbin sets up a community/magazine? Mbin doesn’t care about any ledger. Will we turn Lemmy into a walled garden and prevent Mbin from participating because they don’t want our ledger?
Backup communities don’t really exist right now. There are copies of things on other servers l, but they can’t become functioning communities. This has caused some communities to disappear when their instance went down. The biggest I remember is movies and TV related things.
Having a ledger helps with discovery, because instances now don’t know about other communities by default, it requires extra effort to seek them out until someone else has found them and subscribed. It’s not a big deal for established communities, but it does hurt building a new one.
I don’t have a great solution for admin of creation/movement of communities, but this isn’t meant to be a 100% solution. Distributed consensus is a concept that exists though. There’s no reason a community can’t go on a users instance as default, it just enables a community to potentially migrate for various reasons.
This doesn’t necessarily create a walled garden, as no one owns the walls. It does encourage everyone within Lemmy to maximally federate. I can’t say it significantly changes integration with other implementations as they were never very robust in the first place.
I think you’re now suggesting things that have nothing to do with consolidating communities.
Backup communities don’t really exist right now. There are copies of things on other servers l, but they can’t become functioning communities. This has caused some communities to disappear when their instance went down. The biggest I remember is movies and TV related things.
They don’t exists right now, but the foundation is there. I checked the old kbin.social communities that users from lemm.ee had subscribed to. All the posts seem to be there right until kbin.social got shut down. The data exists on your instance even if the original instance went down. It’s just a matter of figuring out and creating a new functionality to revive those communities on a new instance. This suggestion has nothing to do with consolidation, it’s just a backup solution that can already be done.
Having a ledger helps with discovery, because instances now don’t know about other communities by default, it requires extra effort to seek them out until someone else has found them and subscribed. It’s not a big deal for established communities, but it does hurt building a new one.
I don’t see how that specifically requires a ledger but I guess we can call it a ledger. The solution itself is fairly simple, each instance publishes whenever a new community is created or deleted and federated instances can store that data on their side to have a list of all the communities to search for. For already existing we can create a “publish all existing communities” so each instance can update their lists accordingly. That’s effectively a ledger but once again, it has nothing to do with consolidating communities.
I don’t have a great solution for admin of creation/movement of communities, but this isn’t meant to be a 100% solution. Distributed consensus is a concept that exists though.
Distributed consensus is a concept but is such complexity necessary? Especially when the end result isn’t that much different to what we already have.
There’s no reason a community can’t go on a users instance as default, it just enables a community to potentially migrate for various reasons.
It can, but it doesn’t really matter because that’s exactly how the current system works. As for migrations, if we solve the “backup community” problem then that functionality can just as well be used for migrations because right now we can just duplicate data. If you want to add the one community restriction that migration actually gets harder to implement.
This doesn’t necessarily create a walled garden, as no one owns the walls. It does encourage everyone within Lemmy to maximally federate. I can’t say it significantly changes integration with other implementations as they were never very robust in the first place.
Kbin/Mbin integrations with Lemmy worked pretty well, but if you force all Lemmy instances to use a solution unique to Lemmy then you’re pretty much building a wall because integrations with other similar implementations become less likely. Nobody owns the wall but it would create an “in” group and an “out” group. We already kinda have that with Lemmygrad and Hexbear and the rest of Lemmy, but those two instances can exists independently from the rest of Lemmy so the “in” and “out” groups can easily coexists. But if you force communities across instances you’re going to also force friction between the “in” and “out” groups. There can only be one “c/europe” but there’s one on Lemmygrad and there’s also one on feddit. If you keep the feddit one then Lemmygrad and Hexbear can’t have c/europe and if you let Lemmygrad have c/europe then the rest of Lemmy can’t have c/europe. It’s unnecessary friction.
I guess it would work if Lemmygrad and Hexbear were federated with the rest of Lemmy, but that’s not happening.
lol I’m trying to follow along with all your comments but it just feels like you’re trying to recreate reddit but with some type of block-chain servers handling the load instead of centralized servers.
Like, I get it. When you break it down, what’s the difference between reddit and Lemmy? You don’t like c/Games@lemmy.world, you can make c/Games@sh.itdoesnt.work. On reddit if you don’t like r/games, you can make r/games! or some other bullshit.
Only 2 big differences for me is 1. the hope that just having different instances gets people away from the “Main Hub” communities, 2. multiple instances means less chance of corporation enshittification. Your solution would just promote the eventual lose of both of the reasons I’m on Lemmy to begin with.
I do heavily encourage cross-posting though. Would love some sort of “tag” or something where it’s easier to cross-post to all of the communities that opt-in to be tagged in that category. Could have it so you can filter multi-posts using this feature so you’re not blanketed with the post if you’re subscribed to multiple communities in that category (could even choose a default like only the one with the most comments or your most active community gets highlighted while blocking all the rest, while still having the links in the post like how crosspost currently displays).
It’s not so much recreating reddit, as it is realizing that the content is the important part, not what server holds it. I want centralized content, because that’s how you get critical mass for communities to flourish. Decentralizing the ownership and hosting is where the federation benefits are anyway.
Ahh, I believe we just have a different perspective on what the best outcome for the lemmyverse is. If this place was as popular as Reddit I would want to see hundreds of communities for a subject and not have one that has a majority of users. You can have a main link one like r/science I guess that has super strict posting/commenting regulations and discussions get branched off into subcommunities maybe.
Honestly, even .ml feels too big for me atm and I’m thinking of switching out soon. I believe, if you actually use this site to engage in conversation and read through the links/articles people post, that you really only have time for a few interactions. If you’re just doom scrolling and voting away I guess I would want something like Reddit but I’m already neglecting conversations I want to have on here because there’s so many people and things to talk about all the time (and memes, can’t forget them).
I would recommend a button thar switches between local and all for a community. So people can look at it with their particular rule set in play if they wish.
That doesn’t solve the three different news communities, or the 5 dead communities that could have been one small one.
. . . And how would moderation work?
The same way it does now, maybe more open as users could be from any instance. Instance admins could still have control of communities they are the primary for.
Consolidation is still worse long term. There’s not that many competing communities.
I see the point you are trying to make, but have you considered the criminal US actions in Syria and how the US has evil imperial powers proxy wars and love nazis and make wars happen?
In conclusion: Whatever it is that you said, US bad, therefore you wrong.
I concede that despite not being alive when it was going on, I am just as guilty as everyone in the CIA that rigged elections and staged coups in South America. Everything I’ve come to know and understand in this lifetime is tainted by imperialism and is therefore invalid.
Nah I’ll keep my content off of blahaj as long as their mods want to legitimize trolls.
What’s this about, sorry? Is this the thing with keeping chasers on here (which I personally don’t agree with)?
EDIT: Ah, never mind. You are a bellend. Should have guessed since you are moaning about the instance full of trans people. Do one, gobshite.
It’s over having a community wide hard line on pronouns. Even if a suspected troll is using neo pronouns (or any pronouns frankly) that’s not a license to misgender them.
The user that sparked the recent controversy (drag) has a history of being pretty volatile/offensive but that’s still no reason to compromise on neo pronouns.
I for one would rather put up with someone ‘trolling’ while using neo pronouns (until the inevitable ban for saying something shitty) rather than tolerate anyone getting misgendered in a trans-inclusive space.
Fucking hell. Really? Thanks for telling me.
If someone wants to use a less orthodox pronoun fucking let them. Drag might have a history of being a troll but refusing to use drag’s pronouns means that drag’s gender is conditional on them being well behaved. It turns the use of anyone’s pronouns into an act of “just being polite” or “humouring them”. Its a culture of gate keeping we cannot afford to perpetuate in the current climate of anti-trans hostility.
Um ok, I didn’t name any other instance, just advocating against .ml
Um ok, I’m advocating against blahaj because it’s a toxic space
it’s a toxic space
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
@lemmy.world
Glad you got that off your chest. Really nice of you to just plainly spell out you don’t respect how people choose to identify
Oh please DragonFucker is 100% a troll.
You might as well start pretending 4Chan is a bunch of attack helicopters if you’re going to buy that dumbarsey.
There’s always someone on .world with an axe to grind lmao
Oh the irony.
The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).
Not when one side considers using the phrases: dicksucking, dick riding or sissy to be the misogyny
I think the first two as commonly used are more homophobic, the latter more misogynist
Good thing your opinion isn’t consensus then
It’s truly the most reddit of instances. And yet, here I am.
I started on .world to. You can be free one day. I believe in you.
There’s nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.
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ROFL! The .ml rage is clearly on full display here.
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You’re clearly upset. Maybe it’s best to let this rest.
“Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…
Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.
Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
So you’re from China and can speak Chinese I assume is what you’re trying to say?
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Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is
The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don’t like what you see, that’s a you problem not .ml’s
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it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Dramatic 🙄
Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?
Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.
I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.
Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.
Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.
weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.
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got any better examples?
The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don’t mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.
Nailed it.
You haven’t even had any mod action taken against you on lemmy.ml from what I can tell.
Plenty of other instances that you do use have banned you for racism and trolling though.
This one from hexbear was really funny:
You are unwittingly making their point for them. Hilarious!
I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying “no one should be killed for the color of their skin” is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.
I am so glad I blocked their instance.
So you admit to paying 0 attention?
YePowerTrippingBastards on my home instance is a good starting place, have fun
Or, you know, play the classic .ml card of pretending you don’t know what we’re all talking about
Or, you know, play the classic .ml card of pretending you don’t know what we’re all talking about
Literally the only complaint of substance I’ve seen in this entire thread is people who want to be allowed to use slurs
Literally every single comment I’ve seen of yours boils down to “Oh come on, EVERYBODY says so!”
It’s almost as if you know you’re in friendly territory so you don’t actually have to have any meaning behind your words. You’re free to use them as your playthings /sartre
It’s almost as if you know you’re in friendly territory so you don’t actually have to have any meaning behind your words
More like I consider anyone who pretends not to know what we’re talking about as a willful idiot not worth taking seriously
I don’t have time to deal with those who deny reality, be it MAGA shitstains or blind tankies
More often than not someone when complains about getting banned and I bother to follow up in the modlog it turns out that they got like a 3-7 day ban for acting like an complete asshole. Then they proceed to vague post about it months later despite the ban being long over.
Most of the time, yeah. But there have been enough other cases over the past couple years that I wouldn’t put too many eggs in that basket (or any for that matter).
splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
No one’s saying defederate.
I am, but I already am.
lemmy.world user
Lol they banned discussion of jury nullification despite the fact that they have no reason to so their constant complaining about ml is moot
No other instances need to make feud posts about .world because the natural behavior of the mods and users does a good enough job to drive people out.
No marketing campaign needed.
Hmm, no. I have many posts and comments regarding jury nullification and Luigi in general even in .world communities and not a single has been removed. .world is based on Denmark iirc and per Denmark law, it’s illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime, but not crime already committed
So in Denmark, “Let’s do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification” is illegal, but “Person did [crime] but I think their actions were justified, so let’s do jury nullification” is not.
I wasn’t so lucky. I didn’t even post about jury nullification. Just a Luigi reference.
Which is why their TOS prohibits all discussion relating to it lol
world is based on Denmark iirc
Nope. I’m not sure which but I’m 100% certain that it’s based in either Canada or the US
per Denmark law, it’s illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime
No such law here either. Just like in the US, it might lead you to not being selected, but it’s not illegal.
Let’s do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification" is illegal
True, but it’s only the "let’s do crime that’s (conditionally) illegal. The mention of jury nullification doesn’t make it any more or less illegal to probably and knowingly advocate crime.
Anyway, since that kind of thing is EXTREMELY difficult to prove, it’s exceedingly rare that anyone gets punished for that particular crlme, making your point a moot one.
In conclusion: I feel completely safe in stating the truth that when the law and the systems it protects is unjust, the just break the law and others should try and help them avoid undue or excessive punishment in Denmark.
Our Governing Laws
The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed per the laws of the following countries and/or states:
The Netherlands
Republic of Finland
Federal Republic of Germanyhttps://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#our-governing-laws
Ig I was thinking about Finland or something, but it certainly isn’t Canada or the US, we all thought it was based in Canada or US lol
Huh. I sit corrected about that part, I guess 🤷
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