Google is offering a far more pared-down solution to the court’s ruling that it illegally monopolized search
Can we just stop and appreciate for a moment what a fucking outrage it is that Google is allowed to negotiate its own punishment at all?
You are allowed to suggest sentencing. This isn’t preferential treatment to Google. Of course, the judge doesn’t have to listen to anybody’s suggestions, but you are definitely allowed to make them.
Three years isn’t nearly long enough. Chrome needs to go, as does their dominance in search, android, YouTube and email. That cannot all be one company, under a giant advertising umbrella. Split them up into three companies. Chrome and advertising cannot stay together.
I wish I could get found guilty and still be able to negotiate on equal footing with the prosecution about what my punishment was going to be.
We don’t need to pay bribes to stay the default search engine so long as we get to keep making the monopolist browser that bans adblockers.
They can keep chrome if they open source everything and remove all tracking, telemetry, and calling home of any sort, artificial crippling of addons via manifestV3, stop blocking blockers, stop injecting ads, stop breaking APIs, stop asynchronous and default DNS, stop forcing safebrowsing (URL monitoring).
What else have I missed?
pushing web standards in their user-hostile favour
They would still have disproportionate control over web standards. They should not be allowed to keep Chrome/Chromium under any circumstances.
I still don’t see how a standalone web browser survives financially. It seems like Firefox is always near death and has to make compromising decisions. Do you have any thoughts on how this ought to work?
I think it would thrive under a non-profit like the Linux foundation. It doesn’t need to make money. It’s a critical piece of our tech infrastructure, just like Linux, openssl and other open source projects. Having it in the hands of an ad company whose interests are against the open internet and open standards is not okay.
I really want apple to switch to duckduckgo or ecosia as default now.
Startpage is also an option.
It’s a miracle that Google botched messengers, Google+, cloud ('member app engine?). They could have been even more dominant. I still like them more than MS and FB.
Ye they’re not the worst. I’d def pick then over apple for example, at least makes android which is sick
M chip MacBooks are pretty sweet. Especially if you want Xcode.
Does anyone ever actually ‘want’ Xcode? Is it not just a necessary evil to be able to do iOS development?
Agreed otherwise, M-series macs are sick as hell
Actually, the walled garden around xcode is infuriating. To develop for Apple you need current hardware running the latest operating systems. You have to stay squarely in their ecosystem to generate anything that builds for their mobile devices.
Yeah, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. It’s just another asshole.
Google, over the past few years has notably getting worse. Apps that always worked flawlessly lately started getting buggy. YouTube app on Android now crashes near daily, Gmail is suddenly riddled with bugs… It wasn’t like this.
Google was a software / tech company that started dabbling in ads to make money. This change toe company to what it is now, an ad company that does a bit of tech on the side.
Google Chrome is now the new ie6 and though it sucks in different ways from ie6, at the core the problem is the same
Google and Microsoft are really the same company, it’s just that (for now, still) Google’s software sucks less
Have you tried NewPipe? YouTube changed the API a few times, and it broke for a day. Otherwise, it’s excellent. I had trouble with Google Pay lately, which is really frustrating, I reverted to cash. No trouble with Chrome or Gmail on Android.
Google Pay is the most underrated product in terms of privacy. Just think, you’re disclosing your financial status and consumer habits to the world’s largest advertising company.
I don’t get the boner the feds have for making Google sell Chrome. Maintaining a browser looks like a huge investment and as bad as Google is, there are much worse companies that would jump at the chance to buy it. Imagine some Tencent-tier corporation making you pay to have the ability to install extensions.
Google can Set Standards to their own Advantage, e.g. with regards to Tracking which reinforces their Monopoly on Things Like Ads, the Same reason they crippled all the AdBlockers with ManifestV3 on Chromium-based Browsers
And the only alternative that isn’t Chromium-based is Firefox. (Or Safari with WebKit). All other Browsers use Chromium
So it would be really good for everyone if they were forced to sell Chrome
Any company can do that. That’s why it’s more important to have new browsers (THAT AREN’T CHROMIUM, LOOKING AT YOU EDGE) for competition. Making a company sell the browser used by the majority of people is absolutely not the answer. That’s gambling.
